Thursday 26 March 2015

Applying to NUS & NTU - Subjective (+UEE)

[updated 2 Jan 2016]

Hey there! As promised in my previous post about general info on this subject, this post will tell you my personal experience in enrolling to these (insert own adjective) universities in Singapore.

There are three parts to this post: the application story, the UEEs and reasons why I think I really am an average student.
The second part is intended to lift you up if you intend on applying but feeling discouraged. Just jump ahead to the latter section as you please.

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Part 1: Application Story


First off, I was interested in neither of the universities.

What, seriously??? Everybody says 'if you graduate from NUS/NTU, you'll get rich! My parent's friends told them that their children and relatives that went to NUS/NTU will blablablabla (good things for a human's future, I suppose)'. I didn't care.

And yes, I really didn't. Lots of my friends had already taken A Level courses since the beginning of 12th grade. These courses last for roughly 7 months (July-January). Every weekend, when I'm just being a couch potato and having my incorrigibly lazy me time, they study A Levels. Hmmm.

Three months had passed, and my homeroom teacher asked us more than once whether we had set goals for university studies in the future. I didn't have any, unlike some of my classmates. I started to feel like I should panic (a little). The thing is, I attended educational fairs and whatnot, but none of them stood out to me.

It was the first week of October when I heard from a friend that NUS/NTU UEE were coming up soon, in January and February. Still not interested here. But then I started to think. 'Maybe it's a good idea to join an A Level course now. If I don't want to apply, it's okay. If I end up applying, then it's also okay.' So I joined a course and also ended up applying to both universities in mid November. I had nothing to lose.

The following months until mid January was.... really something. I was 3 months late, so catching up was a priority. My agenda was: school - A Levels - sleep - school - A Levels - study for tests - sleep, you get the picture. Thankfully a friend of mine (who is also a classmate) also went through the same thing and we managed to pass it together :') Oh, I must add that my December 2014 holiday was spent in the "smartest" way possible. (Albeit sounding diligent, I didn't understand A Levels at all. Read more in part 3.)

Mid January was a decisive moment - the revelation of shortlisted candidates for the UEEs. You can make an appeal if you're not shortlisted. I was lucky enough to be invited to attend both UEEs, so of course I attended both (NUS on Jan 31st & 1st Feb, NTU on Feb 7th-8th).

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Part 2: UEE


If you read my previous post, I meant it when I said to take all try-outs regardless how you score. The actual test was very similar to the try-outs; in fact, some of them were totally the same. So how was the UEE?

NUS UEE was just plain ridiculous. If your mentor told you that NUS UEE is not that difficult, never trust them again. Seriously. A Levels everywhere.
- MCQ for maths was easy (considering you bring your calculator and know how to use it), but the essay was just insane (I didn't study statistics which was the major chunk of essay that year :/).
- Physics consisted of 50 MCQs, none of which was doable for me.
- Oh, the chemistry papers? Be prepared to memorize everything about organic reactions because essay #1 was 'this compound mixed with another compound creates a yellow precipitate. If the compound blablabla (2 paragraph compound story). Question: a) Suggest a catalyst and its reaction.' An then.... bcdefghijk. Yes, it was a to k. I do not exaggerate, I only had two choices then: laugh or cry. I had no energy to do either one though HAHA. The MCQs? The honor of touching the test sheet should make you feel smart *sob :'

NTU UEE was more doable. A Levels? Not much of those made an appearance.
- Maths was 100% essay, no MCQs. So you can't just take numbers and push buttons on your calculator randomly. Nothing unusual here, really, as long as your mind do not wander. The questions are similar to previous NTU UEEs.
- Physics was a little bit better than NUS'. A little. The essay was..... counting rains (I'd rather be counting stars HAHA) and other daily things that you never thought of doing (and will definitely not do in the future).
- Chemistry was waaaaaaaay more approachable than NUS'. You'd do well if you understand electrons, concentrations and gas laws & co.

Best of luck! Remember that luck is also a winning factor, don't underestimate it!

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Part 3: Average Student


My standard for average is really..... average. I was never on the top of my class. In fact, top 10 in my class is the highest I ever reached in high school. Last semester, I was not even in the top 15 in my class. Doesn't sound average yet?

I did terrible at A Levels try-outs.

From 38 students, my rank falls between 24-27. Yes, my maths try-out scores were 24, 16, 32, 26, etc, with a median of 30.7 and 52 being the highest. (I was moved to tears when I received 52 while the girl sitting next to me got 90). Hmmm. Physics try-outs? Never got more than 24.

The only thing that made me optimistic was English, for my friend and I made a postulate stating 'Smart (Indonesian) people are terrible at English.' (Oops! Sorry, no offense, smart people! :P)

NTU, the university which only admits totally smart kids (that's how it is prejudiced here in Indonesia), accepted me, a normal student who is probably just like you.


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So don't get discouraged! Not being the best doesn't mean NTU is not in your grasp.
Also, remember that NTU is not everything.
There are many worlds and possibilities to explore, and the one you end up getting may not be your first pick.

Just look forward to life's unpredictable surprises!

27 comments:

  1. Ci ak jg average. Gmn cr ingg ny bagus ci? Bel dr mana?

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    1. Hi Maria! Banyak orang download sample problem IELTS/TOEFL buat latihan Inggris. Search aja di YouTube listening tapenya, biasa ada link download question setnya :)

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  2. Kak, seandainya saya mau apply business atau economics ke ntu, probability diterimanya lebih kecil ya dibanding kalau ambil jurusan science? Tapi material maths yg diujikan lebih gampang karena dari o level bukan a level?

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    1. Hi Ika! Wow a Sanurian reading this post! I'm so honored :')

      Memang kata orang-orang sih kalau Business persaingannya lebih ketat (karena banyak yang mau ambil). But if that's your first choice, go for it!
      And you might want to consider Mathematics and Economics as well.

      Soal materi ujian, itu tergantung jurusan yang kamu apply. Refer to this link: http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/oad2/website_files/International/ExamPaperRequirements.pdf

      Jadiii, kalo misalnya applicant daftar Aerospace sama Materials Engineering, harus ikut Maths & Physics A level, Inggris. Chemnya ga harus.
      Kalo di pilihanmu ada yg requirementsnya A level, kamu sit for A level Maths instead of O level.

      Di angkatanku, anak Sanur yg apply Business dapet kok, jadi peluangmu confirmed ada :D oh btw second choicenya dia engineering jadi dia tesnya A level maths :P

      Feel free to bombard me with more questions! ^^

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    2. Haha, kebetulan lagi search ntu application, ketemu blog kakak. Thank you infonya ya Kak!

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    3. Always happy to help! Just message me on Facebook kalo tiba2 kepikir mau tanya2 lagi :)

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  3. Kak, saya mau tanya gimana chance buat masuk ke ntu mathematical sciences? Saya belom pernah denger orang yang masuk ke mathematical sciences

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    1. Hai Natasha! Hmm on the contrary, banyak orang indo yg math science loh :) jadi chancemu ada bgt imo :D

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  4. Kak,

    mau tanya dong kalau untuk NUS UEE itu dia pakai scoring system kayak SBMPTN gak ya yang dikurang 1 poin kalau ada salah?

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    1. Hai Nadia! Kemarin ini sih ada instruksi harus isi semua nomor, jadi harusnya ga ada pengurangan nilai :)

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  5. Ci, kalau business and computing gmna? And, can u elaborate more about the english uee? Is it also put into consideration of acceptance?

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    1. Hi Maria! Pertanyaan kamu soal business & computing itu UEEnya ya?
      You can refer to this link: http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/oad2/website_files/International/ExamPaperRequirements.pdf

      English UEE mirip tes IELTS/TOEFL, lebih gampang UEE sih imo. Basically for both NUS&NTU ada disuruh bikin essay around 300-500 words. Terus ada bacaan, questions that follow sih asal kamu ngerti bacaannya tentang apa pasti bisa jawab. Sama ada 1 section semacam grammar test gitu, simple2 aja kok haha :P

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  6. Kak kalau daftar ke NUS dokumen seperti hasil UN SMP masih dibutuhkan ga ya? Thanks before :)

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    1. Hi Tika! Seingetku pas daftar dia minta nilainya berapa aja sih, but probably I got everything mixed up :P

      Here's what I found in my documents.

      Checklist NUS:
      1. Application fee (tahun lalu SGD20)
      2. Hasil UN SMA (kosongin aja kalo lulus SMA tahun depan)
      3. Rapor kelas 11
      4. Academic transcript (khusus Law)
      5. Additional reports (SAT, TOEFL, SAT Subjects, AP, ACT) (kalau ada)
      6. Paspor/KTP/surat lahir
      7. Sertifikat lomba (kalau ada)
      8. Medical report(s) (kalau ada)
      9. Criminal record(s) (kalau ada)

      Fyi pendaftaran NUS udah tutup 2 hari yang lalu ^^"

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  7. hi ci! ciic les di ko deddy yaa? kalo math econ susah masuk ga cii? kok ga ada yg masuk ya taun llu? susahnya sama kyk business?

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    1. hi anastasia! wah kok bisa tau aku les di ko deddy? :) banyakan anak indo di sini math with minor in finance sih :P wah aku ga tau sih ya kalo ngebandingin acceptance rate antarjurusan, kalo kamu emang mau daftar ya daftar aja; nothing to lose :)

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    2. hahahha aku les di ko deddy jg ci soalnya. tkut bgt ga ktrima nilai to aku msi 70an :( trus jurusan yg aku ambil math econ, math finance,business yg susa msuk smua :( bagi tips dg cii how to write a good essay esp. for the introduction part

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    3. Nilai TO tidak menentukan apa2 kok, yang penting ga kalah semangat :)
      Untuk essay, tahun lalu sih dikasih 3 pilihan topic. Pilih aja yang paling familiar sama kamu.
      For the introduction sih biasanya isi general info gitu biar pembaca bisa tau topic kamu tentang apa, karena kita ga bisa asumsi semua orang familiar sama topiknya :D

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  8. Cici aku ada pertanyaan nih...
    1. Aku milih computer science dan math science nih. Apa kedua jurusan itu tergolong gampang buat dimasukin anak Indonesia ga?
    2. Nah masalahnya aku baru belajar pas pengumuman ke-shortlist buat UEE, apa aku masih mungkin tembus buat UEEnya? Ditambah lagi aku tinggalnya di kota kecil, jadi mau ngambil bimbel A-level mat itu susah bahkan ga bisa. Di kota aku buku a-level aja bahkan ga ada :( nah solusinya gimana nih?
    3. Minta sarannya aja ci, e-book a-level math yang biasanya recommended buat kaum pemula kaya aku apa ya?

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    1. 1. Untuk gampang atau susahnya masuk jurusan tertentu, I really don't know. But I can say for sure kalo di tiap batch ada anak indo di kedua jurusan itu (sekitar 10an di tiap jurusan) :)
      2. Menurutku yang penting semangat dan jangan kalah mental dulu sebelum hari tes, tapi ga selalu siapkan cadangan. Hm kalo kamu punya akses internet bisa akses ebook dan video YouTube tentang A level kan? ;) Tips buat kamu, fokus ke soal yang pasti keluar tiap tahun (differentiation & integration).
      3. Untuk A level, materinya harusnya audah standard. Just go with what you get your hands on :)

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  9. Hi ci sya mau nanya nih ,saya lihat ntu yg menentukan diundang uee rapor smester 1-4 ,tp kalau nus kok saya lihat hanya semester 2 kelas 11(semester4)saja ,apakah betul hanya semester 4 saja yg dinilai

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    1. aku juga ga tau sebenernya bagaimana pertimbangan mereka, tapi imo ga ada salahnya ngelampirin rapor semester 1-4 kalo nilai kamu bagus / ada peningkatan tiap semesternya :)

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    2. Udah lepasin aja NTU bagusan NUS

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  10. Kak ada contactnya gk ? Line atau email ? Banyak yg mau ditanyain nih soal NTU thx.

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    1. mail me at telungg@gmail.com or via facebook :)

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